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<div dir="auto">Thanks Francis. For completeness, I include below the reply I sent Francis before last night’s meeting.<br />
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Hi Francis,<br />
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You’re welcome to raise this <span style="color:#157efb">tonight</span>, but the rules have already been voted on and approved by your predecessors in 2019 - the only thing to vote on <span style="color:#157efb">tonight</span> is the amendment. It’s too late to propose a new rule change for <span style="color:#157efb">tonight</span>, so I’d suggest this is best brought up at the start of Lent Captains meeting with a proposed rule change at least 48 hours before the Captains meeting so it can be included in the agenda.<br />
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One important aspect of the rules is a means to resolve disputes. The rules are completely meaningless if they’re unenforceable, and whilst we very much hope that it won’t be necessary to request a letter from anyone’s GP, it does provide an absolute and unquestionable means to resolve a dispute over eligibility if one were to arise. I’d encourage you to think about what alternative means could be put in place to ensure any rule change preserves this enforceability.<br />
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Whilst the testosterone level section of the rules is not ideal, it is in line with the Governing Body rules and the same limit will apply to competitors if they wish to take part in British Rowing competitions at any level, not just at international / Olympic competition. I would expect CUCBC to update the rule to track any changes to the British Rowing and IOC rules.<br />
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Best wishes,<br />
Conor</div>
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<div name="messageReplySection">On 20 Oct 2021, 09:28 +0100, Francis Treherne Pollock <fht22@cam.ac.uk>, wrote:<br />
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<div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class="">This is the email I wrote to the committee. It represents my views on the topic. I hope if can provide a good start to a proposed rule change. </font></span></div>
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<span class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">I think this is important. Sorry it's so last minute. </span>
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<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class="">If possible, This evening at the GAC I’d like to argue that enforcing a testosterone cap on trans-women rowers does not indicate fairness and worse excludes and discourages trans-women to compete.</font></span></div>
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<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class="">My main source is: Transgender Women in the Female Category of Sport: Perspectives on Testosterone Suppression and Performance Advantage</font></span></div>
<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(255, 204, 19);"><a href="https://doi.org/10.1007/s40279-020-01389-3" class=""><font face="Arial" class="">https://doi.org/10.1007/s40279-020-01389-3</font></a></div>
<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class="">A review on various papers on the topic. I welcome people to read it for themselves and draw their own conclusions. </font></span></div>
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<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class="">In an update. EH and TL have given talks and engaged in the mainstream media and academic press regarding the biology of sex and how they have concluded that this should impact sporting categories. (All dissemination or engagement, irrespective of the medium, has been guided by their education, disciplinary training, and research findings. The authors assert that this does not constitute a conflict of interest. Rather, it is an essential part of their academic freedom and their obligation to engage, publicly, in such discussions.)</font></span></div>
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<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class="">This issue is difficult to talk about, a study of a few female olympians found that most “didn’t feel like they could speak freely on the topic without being accused of transphobia”. I’m not sure how to deal with that, and as a cis-man I am aware I am completely on the outside, and am unaffected by what I am arguing to change. </font></span></div>
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<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><font face="Arial" class="">The paper finds that testosterone reduction has a very small effect on the strength of trans-female athletes. It doesn’t come close to equalising the playing field. </font></div>
<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; min-height: 15px;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class=""><br class="" /></font></span></div>
<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class="">There is a lack of studies to show how testosterone reduction affects endurance. Haemoglobin levels in trans-women (which affect oxygen carrying capacity) have been shown to be reduced to cis female levels.</font></span></div>
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<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class="">“However, haemoglobin mass is not the only parameter contributing to VO2max, where central factors such as total blood volume, heart size and contractility, and peripheral factors such as capillary supply and mitochondrial content also plays a role in the final oxygen uptake” some of which could never be affected by reducing testosterone levels. </font></span></div>
<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; min-height: 15px;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class=""><br class="" /></font></span></div>
<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class="">To conclude, testosterone reduction has little affect on strength and might have an affect on endurance. I’d like to suggest that testosterone levels in transgender female athletes are therefore a poor indicator of fairness in rowing. </font></span></div>
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<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class="">At this point it becomes a debate about fairness verses inclusion. At the olympic/ national level, British Rowing have chosen to use testosterone levels as an indicator of fairness. It is not perfect but it is tangible and testable. </font></span></div>
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<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class="">But this isn’t an olympic/ national level, this isn’t university level, this college sport. Granted rowing is probably the most competitive college sport. </font></span></div>
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<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class="">Tokyo 8+ gold medal times: </font></span></div>
<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class="">Men <span dir="ltr"><span dir="ltr"><span dir="ltr">5:24</span></span></span> Women <span dir="ltr"><span dir="ltr"><span dir="ltr">5:59</span></span></span> = men exactly 10% faster - not much compared to other sports</font></span></div>
<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class="">so in theory one trans women in a women's 8 should be 1.25% faster - pretty small</font></span></div>
<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; min-height: 15px;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class=""><br class="" /></font></span></div>
<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class="">I don’t have the data at a college level. Looking at average 2k times might also put things into perspective. </font></span></div>
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<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class="">The proposed rules have tried to make the process as easy as possible, but it remains a hard line and a barrier to entry for some. </font></span></div>
<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; min-height: 15px;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class=""><br class="" /></font></span></div>
<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class="">I would argue that inclusivity in a college sport should be valued highly. And letting people take part where they feel most comfortable should be a part of that. </font></span></div>
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<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class="">To conclude I am suggesting that testosterone levels which are a poor indicator of fairness should not be used as a barrier to transgender females competing with cis women. </font></span></div>
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<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class="">Best, </font></span></div>
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<div class="" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class=""><font face="Arial" class="">Francis Treherne Pollock </font></span></div>
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